Live updates: McCarthy loses eighth vote as fight for House speaker job drags into day three
Live updates: McCarthy loses eighth vote as fight for House speaker job drags into day three
January 05, 2023
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WASHINGTON–House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy lost an eighth straight ballot for speaker on Thursday, despite offering fresh concessions to a group of Republican opponents to try to win their votes.
GOP opponents have sunk his past eight attempts to get enough votes to win the job. The efforts to forge a compromise could weaken the job — if he gets it — and shows that governing the Republican-led House is going to be challenging this year, with infighting consuming what’s been a simple one-ballot vote for the past hundred years.
McCarthy has failed to meet the threshold needed to become speaker for a total of seven ballots since Tuesday.
Back again: The House convened after a night and morning of talks among McCarthy, his allies and his enemies, including the prospect of concessions from McCarthy that would give Republican rebels more power in the new Congress.
A McCarthy comeback? McCarthy has been nominated a total of nine times (three each on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday – so far) and has lost each ballot. The Republican was the frontrunner for the speakership, but a bloc of Republicans have refused to back the California representative.
What will happen on day three? Members will continue to vote. The vote will last until a speaker is selected. The House remains paralyzed with members-elect not sworn in, lacking security clearances and the lower chamber remains unable to conduct any legislative business.
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Jeffries nominated again for the ninth time
Rep. Ted Lieu, D-Calif, nominated Jeffries for the ninth time on behalf of House Democrats.
“Democrats stand united and ready to get to work on behalf of the American people under the leadership of Hakeem Jeffries,” said Lieu. “Vote after vote, nomination after nomination, Democrats are united.”
House Democrats have unanimously backed Jeffries for the speakership for the past eight ballots with Jeffries earning 212 votes in all of them.
— Ken Tran
Nehls gives McCarthy ninth nomination
Rep. Troy Nehls nominated Rep. Kevin McCarthy for a ninth time in the GOP leader’s bid to be speaker.
McCarthy has been blocked eight times by 20 conservative members who make up about 10% of the caucus.
If McCarthy loses on the ninth ballot, he will tie a 100-year-old record currently owned by late Rep. Frederick Gillett, R-Mass., who won his speaker bid in 1923 after nine rounds of voting.
— Candy Woodall
Stuck in a moment: McCarthy does not pick up votes on the 8th ballot
The eighth ballot went no better for McCarthy, as the official House tally shows him still stuck on 201 votes.
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McCarthy appears to lose speakership again, for the eighth time
For the eighth time, McCarthy appears to have lost his bid for the speakership.
After the seventh ballot, the House immediately moved to an eighth ballot, but there has been very little movement so far among McCarthy’s detractors.
It is unclear if the House will move to a ninth vote or adjourn.
– Ken Tran
Boebert votes for another Kevin as House speaker
No not that Kevin.
Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado, who staunchly opposes Kevin McCarthy as speaker, voted instead for Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma, who wasn’t officially nominated for the speaker bid.
It was the first vote for Hern and the first time in two days Boebert switched her vote from Rep. Byron Donalds.
–Candy Woodall
Biggs, former speaker candidate, nominates Donalds
Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., a McCarthy opponent who was a candidate for speaker at the start of the week, gave the latest nominating speech for Byron Donalds – but spent most of it attacking President Joe Biden and the Democrats.
Biggs criticized Democrats for mocking the Republicans’ failures to elect a speaker, though some GOP members have also showed disdain for how things are going.
The Arizona Republican said he and allies want a change.
“We’re on a sub-optimal path,’ Biggs said. “It has to change.”
– David Jackson
Democrats nominate Jeffries for the eighth ballot
Democrats changed things around for the eighth ballot with Democratic minority whip Rep. Katherine Clark nominating Jeffries to the speakership for the eighth time. California Democratic Rep. Pete Aguilar had handled the previous seven nominating speeches.
Clark opened her nominating speech by saying “212” seven times, referring to Jeffries’ vote count in the past seven ballots where he earned unanimous support from House Democrats.
“Two hundred twelve House Democrats stand united behind our leader because Hakeem Jeffries stands united for the American people,” said Clark, pointing out how the House has yet to conduct business without a speaker. “The historic dysfunction we are seeing, this intra-party fight the American people have been drawn into is imperiling our national security.”
– Ken Tran
Gallagher: Biggest roadblock for McCarthy ‘basic trust’
GOP Rep. Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin told reporters outside the House floor Thursday that McCarthy has made a “persuasive case” with the concessions he has agreed upon.
“The biggest roadblock, I don’t know I mean (it) seems to be just basic trust,” he said.
“This is sort of weird,” he continued. “We started off with two people (running for speaker), now we have like 13.”
– Rachel Looker
Ballot 8 begins: McCarthy is nominated again
The House quickly moved to an eighth speaker vote, though there is no end in sight.
Rep. Brian Mast, R-Fla., nominated McCarthy by calling for party unity, and noted that Congress cannot do basic functions as long as this deadlock remains, such as declare war in case of attack. Mast, a veteran, choked up when discussing the sacrifices that so many Americans have made over the years.
McCarthy “will give us an opportunity to right the course,” Mast told fellow Republicans, but there’s still no evidence he has the votes to prevail.
– David Jackson
‘More difficult to trust’: GOP members lack faith in McCarthy
As the House wrapped up its seventh failed ballot to elect a speaker, Pennsylvania Rep. Scott Perry, a key voice against electing House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy as speaker, went to Twitter to reaffirm his unyielding position.
“A deal is NOT done,” Perry wrote. “When confidences are betrayed and leaks are directed, it’s even more difficult to trust. Totally unsat. I will not yield to the status quo.”
Perry also reiterated his lack of trust in McCarthy, referring to the leaked list of concessions from McCarthy to the House Freedom Caucus.
– Sarah Elbeshbishi
Official tally: McCarthy stuck on 201 votes – and Trump gets one vote
The first speaker vote of Thursday yielded the same basic result as the first six ballots over the past two days: Kevin McCarthy doesn’t have the numbers to become speaker.
again voted for Byron Donalds. Another Republican, Victoria Spartz, again voted “present.”
As with the six previous votes, Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries led the field with 212 votes, but he and his party lack the majority needed to make him speaker.
– David Jackson
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McCarthy poised to lose seventh House speaker vote
Day three, ballot seven and still no speaker.
House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy appeared to lose his seventh bid as he failed to reach the threshold required to win the speaker’s gavel.
The House adjourned Wednesday night until noon Thursday, buying McCarthy more time to secure the 218 votes he needs to be elected speaker. However, the effort has fallen short.
— Sarah Elbeshbishi
“He ain’t no prop:” McCarthy opponents again nominate Byron Donalds
Rep. Dan Bishop, R-N.C., said with Donalds the House has the chance to elect the first Black speaker in history, and he attacked Democrats who said that the Florida Republican is only a “prop” for the anti-McCarthy forces.
“He ain’t no prop,” Bishop said.
– David Jackson
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nominated House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries for a seventh time on Thursday afternoon.
“There is no victory in a journey without doing the business of the people,” Aguilar said.
His comments came on the third day of voting without a speaker chosen by a clear majority.
Jeffries has repeatedly had 212 votes – the full support of his caucus – while the GOP has failed to unite around one leader.
— Candy Woodall
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McCarthy nominated again, this time by John James
Michigan freshman congressman John James nominated McCarthy to start the day.
After a standing ovation and repeated applause, James said McCarthy would change the direction of the nation and argued that the GOP needs to resolve the impasse over the speaker’s job.
People “want Republicans to lead,” James said.
This will be McCarthy’s seventh time on the speaker ballot.
Born in Brooklyn, New York, he moved to the Sunshine State for college, originally attending Florida AM before transferring to Florida State University where he graduated with a degree in finance. Post-grad Donalds worked at TIB Bank, CMG Life Services and Moran Wealth in Naples.
— Anna Kaufman
Learn more about him:Byron Donalds for speaker? Republicans nominate McCarthy alternative in House speaker vote
the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, took aim at House Republicans at the forefront of McCarthy’s battle for the speakership as the House enters another day without a speaker.
“This week, people who encouraged or even attended the insurrection are taking places as leaders in the new House majority,” said Fanone, speaking at a press conference organized by progressive groups Courage for America and Common Defense.
Fanone singled out Republican Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Matt Gaetz of Florida, and Derrick Van Orden of Wisconsin.
“To the new speaker of the House, whoever the hell that ends up being, and other GOP House leaders, here’s my message to you,” said Fanone. “We the people are calling on you to condemn political violence.”
— Ken Tran
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offering no relief to GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy who would have an easier time winning a majority of votes without some Democrats in the room.
“We are here. We are in full attendance, and we are going to remain so,” she said.
When asked if Democrats would stay through the weekend if the House remains in session until there’s a speaker, Clark said, “Yes, and this is not a hard sell.”
— Candy Woodall
McCarthy offers new concessions
Rep. Kevin McCarthy is offering a slate of new concessions, trying to woo the Republican rebellion against him and effectively giving up the power of the speakership while hanging onto the title.
He has now allowed for a single member to force a vote to remove him as speaker, given the far-right flank authority to pick a third of the members on the powerful House Rules Committee, and opening spending bills to amendments and debates.
The concessions give more power to the 10% of the caucus that has already wielded outsized power in the narrow, four-person majority.
— Candy Woodall
Perry, a McCarthy holdout, facing backlash at home
Rep. Scott Perry, one of the 20 holdouts against Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s bid for speaker, is being called out by progressives in his Pennsylvania district at home.
A rally planned Friday in remembrance of Jan. 6 will include a call to Perry to leave the House Freedom Caucus, which he chairs, according to organizers.
Members of Hershey Indivisible, a grassroots progressive organization, will meet on the Pennsylvania Capitol steps at noon Friday “to say MAGA Extremism is Fascism, Not Freedom,” the group said in a statement. “Let’s make sure Rep. Scott Perry doesn’t get away with his gross Freedom Caucus politics.”
Perry was a key figure in former President Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election, according to the former House committee that investigated Jan. 6.
The Pennsylvania Republican refused subpoenas and interview requests from the committee and has denied that he ever sought a pardon.
Perry is now a ringleader in the effort against McCarthy and said on the House floor Wednesday the speaker fight is “hard” and “painful,” but necessary to fix a broken Washington.
After two days of stinging defeats in six losses, Rep. Kevin McCarthy returned to the Capitol Thursday morning confident his bid for speaker is moving in the right direction.
“I think we’re making progress,” he said to reporters. “We’re all working together to find a solution.”
McCarthy can only afford to lose four votes, and there are at least five or more in his caucus who are still a hard NO on him. His allies see any movement toward him or the ability to prevent further losses as a win.
But does he have the votes yet to be speaker? “We’ll see,” McCarthy told reporters.
— Candy Woodall
McCarthy’s shifting support
House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy’s first real win this week was an adjournment vote and it came in prime time with benefits and consequences.
One of his allies, Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas, said on CNN last night members should start discussing alternatives to McCarthy. He said the McCarthy holdouts are “dug in” and many of his 200 supporters could tolerate only “three or four” more votes.
Meanwhile, on FOX News, McCarthy was getting support from host Sean Hannity. “If you only have 30, to be clear, you will not withdraw,” Hannity said while interviewing McCarthy opponent Rep. Lauren Boebert, but you’re telling Kevin McCarthy and the 203 people who support him to withdraw.”
McCarthy also received support from Elon Musk, who said the GOP leader should be speaker, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and others.
“Speaker fight is 10% vs. 90% of members. It’s simple math,” Huckabee said in a tweet. “Meanwhile the country goes to hell Dems Devil laugh.”
— Candy Woodall
A House without rules
Welcome to Day 3 in a House without rules, where for the first time in the modern era everything is in question – including the temperature in the chamber.
That’s not just the temperature of lawmakers disagreeing with each other, but also the actual temperature inside the room. The speaker of the House usually controls or dictates the thermostat, but without a speaker there have been some complaints this week that it’s too hot or too cold inside the chamber. Some gripes may be tongue in cheek and have offered some rare levity as the GOP, with a new and slim majority, struggles to organize its caucus.
Other changes in a House without rules this week have related to lobbyists on the floor. Some of them are former members or family of members, but normally paid lobbyists aren’t allowed on the House floor.
Also, without rules, there’s confusion, which was on display Wednesday night as both parties shouted at the clerk and each other as they decided to adjourn – first by voice vote, then a recorded vote.
The House without rules also has no members. All 434 are members-elect because they can’t be sworn in without a speaker.
— Candy Woodall
Democrats to hold press conference Thursday morning
The minority party in the House hasn’t been demure in pointing to its good week and hasn’t missed an opportunity to talk about the GOP majority struggling to lead without leadership.
Democrats will hold another press conference at 10 a.m. Thursday and will have a closed-door meeting at 11 a.m., as the House returns for a third day without a speaker.
Look for Democrats to have their full caucus together Thursday morning. They lost an adjournment vote Wednesday night because two of their members, Reps. Tony Cardenas of California and Adriano Espaillat of New York, were absent for it.
The GOP won the adjournment vote 216 to 214, though four Republicans voted with Democrats against adjourning.
— Candy Woodall
What to expect today
Based on members comments alone, Rep. Kevin McCarthy still doesn’t have the votes to be speaker.
But there could be a seventh vote when the House gavels in at noon Wednesday. Or there could be another adjournment. Neither procedure came easily yesterday.
McCarthy can only afford to lose four Republican votes in House GOP’s slim majority, and there are still at least five who say they are voting against him: Reps. Matt Gaetz of Florida, Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Ralph Norman of South Carolina and Bob Good of Virginia.
The reasons for their holdouts range from not trusting McCarthy, believing he’s too aligned with the Republican establishment they see as “the swamp” to complaining about spending bills he’s let move through the House.
Based on other reports in Politico Playbook and Punchbowl News, there are maybe a dozen firm NOs against McCarthy, but his camp remains optimistic. They believe if they can win some of the 20 detractors to their side, it will pressure the other holdouts.
However, some members like Gaetz told reporters Wednesday he will be a NO for weeks or months.
Though some of the hardliners say it will be worth monthslong negotiations to not have McCarthy as speaker, other members with military backgrounds continue to sound alarms this morning that not having a sworn-in House is putting national security risk. Without being sworn in, there are no committees to oversee the Department of Defense and other agencies, they may not have valid security clearances and can’t be briefed on threatening national security risks.
—Candy Woodall
Who is Kevin McCarthy?
In 1987, a 22-year-old college student named Kevin McCarthy was rejected from a congressional internship. More than 30 years later, that onetime intern hopeful could become the next speaker of the House.
Former California Republican Rep. Bill Thomas’ chief of staff, Cathy Abernathy, is the one who turned down the then-student from Bakersfield in the 80s. Never, she told USA TODAY, did she guess the arc McCarthy’s career would take.
“It’s absurd to ask a person ‘Did you see this coming?’” Abernathy laughed. “Of course not.”
— Ken Tran
Why do they keep voting for speaker of the House?
Prior the start of a new Congress, both parties hold a private meeting where they elect the party leadership for the next Congress. This takes place before Jan. 3, the official start of the new term when all House members vote for the speaker.
A candidate only needs a majority of votes from their respective party to win the nomination in the private meeting for leadership.
Even if a colleague votes against a candidate in the private caucus meeting, the party typically sticks together to back their nominee on the House floor in January, according to Matt Glassman, a senior fellow at Georgetown University’s Government Affairs Institute.
However, when the whole House votes, just a few votes in opposition to a candidate from their own party could cost them the speakership.
— Rachel Looker
Learn more here:What happens after McCarthy loses speaker vote multiple times? Here’s how the process works.
What happened Wednesday?
A chaotic and historic two days in the House were punctuated Wednesday night by a raucous vote to adjourn during a tumultuous session marked by shouting and confusion.
And still no speaker.
Republicans came to the floor at 8 p.m. ET and motioned to adjourn again until noon Thursday to give GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy more time to secure the 218 votes he needs to win the gavel. Democrats, in no hurry to resolve the GOP stalemate, tried to block the effort but failed.
A voice vote was too close in a House currently without rules, and Democrats shouted for the clerk to hold a recorded vote. Members filed up to the rostrum to cast their votes, as others stood behind them and anxiously looked up at the House scoreboard.
— USA TODAY staff
House adjourns without a new speaker as McCarthy loses three rounds of voting
