The whole point of the podcast is sort of for me not to be explaining anything to anyone. It’s sort of, at least for me, like, well, this is your own interpretation. I love that you point this out, because it was such an interesting dialogue I was having about this idea that art, for so long, was [such] only if it was beautiful. When people sort of moved away from that, it shook [the art world]. I don’t know if, now, that’s such a thing, obviously, because people are making art in so many different ways. I don’t think I can explain it. If anything, the more you listen to the podcast ― I’m not there to explain anything. I want to leave that to the curators I talk to.
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