{"id":71800,"date":"2017-02-23T14:55:06","date_gmt":"2017-02-23T14:55:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/parliaments-oversight-of-spending-totally-irrational-but-still-not-fixed-says-treasury-board-president.html"},"modified":"2017-02-23T14:55:06","modified_gmt":"2017-02-23T14:55:06","slug":"parliaments-oversight-of-spending-totally-irrational-but-still-not-fixed-says-treasury-board-president","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/political\/parliaments-oversight-of-spending-totally-irrational-but-still-not-fixed-says-treasury-board-president.html","title":{"rendered":"Parliament&#8217;s oversight of spending &#8216;totally irrational,&#8217; but still not fixed, says Treasury Board president"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One year after pledging to change the way Parliament reviews and approves government spending, Treasury Board President Scott Brison is still trying to fix the problem.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s totally irrational,&#8221;\u00a0<span>Brison<\/span>\u00a0said this week, as he prepared once again to table a set of main estimates that won&#8217;t reflect this year&#8217;s budget.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I have a sort of deep-seated understanding of the flaws of the current system.&#8221;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/politics\/treasury-board-estimates-budget-reform-1.3455511\"><strong>Scott\u00a0<span>Brison<\/span>\u00a0sets out to stop the budget&#8217;s March madness<\/strong><\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Brison had hoped\u00a02016 would be the last year\u00a0the government would table its main spending estimates for all departments and agencies \u2014\u00a0due by March 1, according to Parliament&#8217;s rules\u00a0\u2014 only to have some of it\u00a0<span>become outdated<\/span>\u00a0a few weeks later when\u00a0the finance minister delivers the new\u00a0budget.<\/p>\n<p>When MPs vote to approve spending estimates \u2014 a formality that&#8217;s necessary to grant the authority for the money to be spent \u2014 they&#8217;re voting on figures that represent the continuation of an outdated\u00a0status quo, instead of the latest\u00a0decisions.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The budget and the estimates don&#8217;t even use the same accounting system.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The current process is opaque. It&#8217;s almost incomprehensible,&#8221; Brison said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>But not everyone\u00a0has embraced his enthusiasm for change.<\/p>\n<p><span>Brison<\/span>\u00a0doesn&#8217;t understand the reluctance. He believes the changes make it easier for MPs to hold the government to account and force ministers to\u00a0&#8220;be at the top of their game&#8221; and defend\u00a0their department&#8217;s plans.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m impatient because it&#8217;s very much\u00a0the right thing to do,&#8221; he said.\u00a0&#8220;Sometimes in\u00a0Parliament there can be an obstructionist instinct that can shove out or shove aside a more constructive approach.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2>Out of sequence<\/h2>\n<p>If the budget came out in January or early\u00a0February, the estimates could\u00a0include budget measures and still meet the\u00a0March 1 deadline.<\/p>\n<p>Five years ago a Commons committee recommended an early, fixed budget date to resolve this.<\/p>\n<p>But the\u00a0government didn&#8217;t go for it.<\/p>\n<p>This year&#8217;s\u00a0budget date hasn&#8217;t even been announced. So the main estimates due this week (the Commons takes a\u00a0break next week) won&#8217;t reflect the budget.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Supplementary estimates will be\u00a0tabled later and\u00a0MPs will vote then\u00a0to approve revised\u00a0amounts. Sometimes these votes are many\u00a0months\u00a0after programs were\u00a0announced. Funds lapse because they can&#8217;t get out the door on time.<\/p>\n<p>Departments are trying to improve.<\/p>\n<p>The first set of supplementary estimates\u00a0last spring included\u00a0two-thirds of the 2016 budget funding.<\/p>\n<p>But 51\u00a0measures weren&#8217;t ready for approval until the second set of supplementary estimates seven months later.<\/p>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/RSSPoster_PRO\/cache\/03a06_morneau-20170206.jpg\" alt=\"Morneau 20170206\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"figure-caption\">Finance Minister Bill Morneau hasn&#8217;t announced the date for the 2017 budget yet. The decisions his department is making now won&#8217;t be reflected in the government spending estimates due by the end of the month. (Adrian Wyld\/Canadian Press)<\/p>\n<p>A year ago,\u00a0<span>Brison<\/span>\u00a0pointed to how things work in provinces like Ontario and countries like Australia, where processes are better aligned and spending is approved faster.<\/p>\n<p>But his deputy minister, Yaprak Baltacioglu, told the government operations committee last October &#8220;it&#8217;s a little soon for the whole machine to turn that way.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2>Stalled at committee<\/h2>\n<p>It&#8217;s unclear why Brison&#8217;s\u00a0department waited until last fall to circulate a policy paper outlining\u00a0concrete\u00a0proposals\u00a0for reform.<\/p>\n<p>As an interim step,\u00a0<span>Brison<\/span>\u00a0suggested\u00a0that for at least two years\u00a0the standing orders of the House of Commons be changed to move the deadline for tabling the estimates back to May 1. That way, when committees called witnesses to review the estimates before voting in June, the figures\u00a0could reflect the budget.<\/p>\n<p>But ministers can&#8217;t change standing orders, only the House of Commons does. The proposal bogged down in\u00a0committee\u00a0and wasn&#8217;t approved in time.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re working with opposition to get this right, and we have made some progress,&#8221;\u00a0<span>Brison<\/span>\u00a0said, putting a positive spin on what unfolded at multiple, drawn-out committee appearances.\u00a0&#8220;The timing was the issue.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Some\u00a0MPs wanted to call witnesses, including parliamentary budget officer\u00a0Jean-Denis\u00a0Fr\u00e9chette.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>A PBO report last November suggested that based on how long it took for the Treasury Board to work through\u00a02016 budget measures, delaying the main estimates by eight weeks might not be enough.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Fr\u00e9chette\u00a0said the\u00a02012 committee recommendation for a fixed budget date is a better idea.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;For me, it&#8217;s the way to go,&#8221; he said. Although it wasn&#8217;t unanimous, it expressed\u00a0what Parliament wants.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Changing standing orders is a &#8220;huge challenge,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<h2>&#8216;Fundamental battle&#8217;<\/h2>\n<p>Brison&#8217;s other reforms\u00a0don&#8217;t require Parliament&#8217;s permission.<\/p>\n<p>Spending reports are changing. New reconciliation tables now make it easier for MPs to compare budget figures with spending\u00a0estimates.<\/p>\n<p>But there&#8217;s a fine balance between offering MPs more useful information and just &#8230; more. Too much for any individual parliamentarian to digest without help, perhaps.<\/p>\n<p>Some spending votes are being reorganized, to link up with programs.<\/p>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/RSSPoster_PRO\/cache\/03a06_pbo-infrastructure-20170221.jpg\" alt=\"PBO Infrastructure 20170221\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"figure-caption\">Parliamentary budget officer Jean-Denis Fr\u00e9chette&#8217;s office was asked to review the proposed changes to the estimates process. He sounded a few notes of caution and suggested areas where more consideration might help. (Adrian Wyld\/Canadian Press)<\/p>\n<p>Fr\u00e9chette\u00a0says MPs like this\u00a0idea. But if appropriations get too specific, it takes discretion away from\u00a0public servants and cabinet ministers to move\u00a0money around as needed.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you need parliamentary approval every time you want to shift money, it becomes a very heavy system,&#8221; Fr\u00e9chette said, describing this as a &#8220;fundamental battle,&#8221; since MPs are supposed to hold\u00a0the ultimate responsibility for spending taxpayers&#8217; money.<\/p>\n<p>And then there&#8217;s the possibility that if MPs know more about what they&#8217;re voting on and don&#8217;t like it, they might vote it down.<\/p>\n<p>The precedents for this are few and far between, but it is possible. In 2003, MPs\u00a0voted their displeasure at a large increase in the governor general&#8217;s budget, for example.<\/p>\n<p>In reality, however, spending votes are confidence votes. If MPs feel frustrated reviewing the estimates, it might stem from their perceived inability to amend anything.<\/p>\n<p>Can Brison&#8217;s reforms really help then?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The proof of the pudding is in the eating,&#8221; Fr\u00e9chette\u00a0said. &#8220;It&#8217;s really still to be seen if it&#8217;s going to be used by Parliament in a good way.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p \/>\n<p \/>\n<p \/>\n<p \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One year after pledging to change the way Parliament reviews and approves government spending, Treasury Board President Scott Brison is still trying to fix the problem. &#8220;It&#8217;s totally irrational,&#8221;\u00a0Brison\u00a0said this week, as he prepared once again to table a set of main estimates that won&#8217;t reflect this year&#8217;s budget.\u00a0 &#8220;I have a sort of deep-seated [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":71801,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[84],"class_list":["post-71800","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-political","tag-political"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71800","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=71800"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71800\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/71801"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=71800"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=71800"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/usa.timesofnews.com\/breaking-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=71800"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}